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hi, everyone. i'm tamron hall. the "news nation" is following big breaking news. one week since the boston marathon bombing. moments ago the surviving suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev was charged with using a weapon of mass destruction among other federal charges. if convicted he could be sentenced to death. the mean the-year-old had his initial appearance before a judge in a boston hospital where he remained in serious condition. later this very hour, president obama and the city of boston as well as this nation will mark a moment of silence at 2:50 eastern time. the exact moment the first bomb exploded. bells will ring afterward. massachusetts governor deval patrick and thomas menino will be on hand of the neighborhood of 8-year-old vimd martin richard. also today the first funeral was held for the bombing victims. the capacity crowd mourned. krystle campbell, the 29-year-old at the finish line
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clearing on a friend. and later this evening, boston university will hold a memorial service for lu lingzi, the 23-year-old graduate, the student from china also killed in the blast. meanwhile as crews clean up the crime scene today, new questions about how the fbi interrogated tamerlan tsarnaev before the attacks. >> why didn't the fbi follow up on that? you combine the first interrogation, the first examination plus the subsequent act. when somebody is brought to your attention, you investigate and find nothing and then he carries out murders, you wonder, didn't you miss something in the investigation? >> and today, our investigative team uncovered new details about the suspect's weapons. tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an
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enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated picture to what i'm talking about now. but this is the person we're talking about. but the surveillance tape was taken at the scene of the second bombing. you may recall that there was a restaurant there called the
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foreign restaurant. they say a surveillance camera there shows him walking up to the restaurant with his backpack on. that he takes a cell phone off, seems to be using it for a while, then seems to be talking on it. and then after he finishes the call, the first explosion goes off. he can be seen reto it. and i'm wondering if this isn't a little bit of confusion to see the pictures we're showing now. maybe we should stick to what was happening there at the scene of the explosion. they say a few seconds after finishes the call, the large crowd of people can be seen turning and looking at the explosion. i'm quoting from the document now. virtually every head turns toward the finish line and stares in apparent bewilderment but he virtually alone appears calm. he glances in the direction of the bombing and then calmly but rapidly begins moving in the opposite direction accident away from the finish line. he walks away without his nap
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sack, having left it on the ground, and about ten seconds later, the bomb goes off. then they talk about the carjacking that happened on friday night. the night after the fbi released pictures. there is a few interesting new details about the carjacking. they say that the man who owned the car had been stopped. and someone tapped on the window. he rolls the window do you. one man they say reached in, opens the door, points a gun at him and says, i'm quoting from the court document. did you hear about the boston explosion? i did that. and then according to the court documents, the man removes the magazine from the gun, shows the victim that it has bullets in it and says, i'm serious. according to the court documents, the man whose car is carjacked is forced to drive somewhere else and they pick up a second man and transfer some things into the car. then they drive to a gas station where they say the two men get out of the car and the car owner manages to escape. we know from other reporting that the man then dashed away to another place and called 911.
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now, they say that they found some intact low grade explosive devices in the car. and the remnants of several exploded ieds. additional details about the boston marathon bombing them say both were made with pressure cookers of the same brand, with metallic bbs and nails. and that they had some adhesive material on them. they were supposedly glued to the inside of the pressure cooker. and they used hobby glue. you buy it at a hobby store and cut it to the length for how many seconds you want it to be a delay. they stay remnants of at least one of the exploded ieds at the scene of the absoluteout in watertown indicated the same sort of materials, the same brand pressure cooker as the one used in the explosions and the bbs with the adhesive material and the hobby glues.
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two other points. they say on him they found on him, his i.d. card, his dartmouth identification card, some credit cards. they went to his dorm room. this would have been yesterday and seized from his room, they say, a large pyrotechnic and then a black jacket and a white hat. of the same general appearance as the one worn by the bomber at the scene released by the fbi. and they also found bbs. now, i say one other quick thing here. there was an initial appearance at the hospital room today. a magistrate came and they did the very simple initial procedure here. he was advised of the charges, told of the maximum penalties and he agreed to be voluntarily detained. and i think the other thing that is important here is the judge says, the court is satisfied that the defendant is alert and
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able to respond to the charges. that's important because they could not have had this hearing if he had not been mentally competent and alert to understand the proceedings against him. so that tells us a little more about sort of confirming the idea that he is awake and alert enough to have him be asking him questions. >> so pete, regarding these charges and that small way that you talked about allowing the special interrogators to question him over the last few hours, our 24 to 48 hours, do we assume we're seeing charges? that window now has closed that limited scope that they were able to focus on before reading him his miranda rights? >> not necessarily. that could go independently. i guess now that they've had this initial appearance, i suppose that's a fair assumption. it isn't automatic but that's probably right. >> what about michael isikoff, our colleague is reporting that i.c.e. homeland security has focused on new bedford, massachusetts and two
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individuals were taken in for immigration violations and they apparently are friends of tamerlan tsarnaev. can you tell me any more about that? >> these are people, i presume he is talking about people detained in new bedford, massachusetts on friday evening. the fbi has been trying to investigate whether they had any knowledge of this. whether they had any role in it. they seem to have concluded that they don't. but they're being held for now on immigration charges pending further investigation. >> and before i let you go, i know you have more to cover. 2009, this police report of tamerlan tsarnaev being arrested on domestic violence allegations. that has been released and many are wondering is that part of the equation as to why his request to become a citizen of the u.s. was at least delayed? >> it is possible. the officials i've talked to say it could have been a factor. you have to remember that his request for naturalization was by no means coming due.
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because he entered the country well over a year after dzhokhar tsarnaev did. it was in the pipeline. that was a troubling thing to look at. they found out the fbi interviewed him in 2011 at the request of the russians. for all those things it was not exactly moving on a fast track but it had not been denied. >> we greatly appreciate you joining us. let me bring in roger cressey, nbc news terrorism analyst. roger, we heard in great detail from pete as much as possible the latest from this charge sheet for is dzhokhar tsarnaev. the question remains about this fbi investigation. you have lawmakers wondering if there was a crack, if you will, in the fbi process when they went to the family's home and interviewed if you will, tamerlan tsarnaev. what can you tell me about any information you have from your sources? >> well, this is going to be part of the investigation into the why.
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that will go on for some time here. because you have both the fbi as well as the intelligence community and other national security bureaucracies going through the data bases, identifying the information that they had on hand at the time of the bombing. and now cross referencing it with what they know from the tsarnaev brothers in their actions and activities. based on what we've seen in the initial reports, based on the fbi statements, they followed the normal procedures the right way. >> what is the normal procedure? you get a tip from a foreign country. in this case reports have indicated it is obviously russia. you go to this individual's home. if you ask them point blank are you a terrorist, they'll say no. what is the procedure? what would the questioning be like for an individual under this kind of scrutiny? >> well, they would be a stupid terrorist if they said yes, wouldn't they? a couple points, the first is they'll go based on the information the russian intelligence service gave them. they'll follow up on that through their own classified information. they turned up nothing. including looking at communications to see if there is anything quote/unquote
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derogatory. then they did the face to face investigation. they pulled that together based on what they have. they draw a conclusion. we have nothing here to move on legally. they then report that back to the russians. the russians never get back to them with any sponsor any additional information. the big question that we're now asking the russians is during that six-month period when he was in russia, who did he meet with? where was he? what did he do? >> part of the other question would be also, i would think, is that in the case of the suspect who is now deceased, he went on a website, posted things that might certainly be concerning given that the fbi had already been contacted by russian officials. would they continue to monitor i guess is the question, someone like that? it is not a long period of time between the visit to russia, the alert from russian officials, and some of these postings that are certainly concerning made by that individual online. would he not be monitored? >> well, i think this is an
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important question that we'll find the answer to. was there anything the fbi, could have, should have done. based on what frig my prior experience, the answer is probably no. there was an end of the line here to what they could do. and i think we're going to have to learn when taermland came back and started posting these videos, was there any trigger that should have alerted not just law enforcement but the local community within which he resided. we're talking about the top down element of this. was there something missed? there's a bottom up element. at the community level, did any of his action, should it have triggered any question or notification of local law enforcement because of how radical he became over this period of time once he returned to the united states? >> all right. roger cressey, thank you for your time. the senate hearing on immigration reform really got heated this morning when the boston attacks were brought up. iowa senator chuck grassley yelled at new york senator charles schumer when schumer
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called on critics to stop using the attacks as a way to your honor against comprehensive immigration, argue against comprehensive immigration reform. >> the terrible tragedy in boston as a, i would say, excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say that. >> and you -- >> mike, we knew about this hearing that was planned before the attacks. we knew this conversation would likely get heated as always on the sunday morning programs. you had lawmakers trying to link the attacks with this comprehensive reform. >> it was inevitable that it would creep in with 7th such a very volatile issue like immigration reform which was already the contention. but also the political level as well. you saw that today. there will be a moment of
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silence today at 2:50 eastern time in boston in the west wing and here in the united states senate. before then, tempers were really flaring at that hearing, jeff sessions, another opponent of immigration reform by that so scald bipartisan gang of 8. grassley is right about one thing. he is not the one who said there should be a delay as a result of what happened in boston but others have said that. dan coates, a republican from indiana on the sunday shows yesterday on one of them saying it should be a delay for months while we look at this. rand paul, obviously a very influential voice amongert semifinals here in the senate saying before we move forward on immigration reform, we need to understand the specific failures of our current immigration system that led to these two and their families being granted asylum. the country has seen so many strife and activism.
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the white house for its part is defending the immigration reform efforts that it needs to go forward. doing so will help us become a more secure nation. make it less likely the boston incidents, the boston attacks could happen again. meanwhile lindsey graham, also on that judiciary committee, will have a press conference in a few minutes. he is very disappointed. as are john mccain and peter king on the house side, the white house has decided to move forward with pressing the suspect that is in the hospital right now with civilian charges. they of course insisted that he be treated as an enemy combatant. that is obviously not going to happen now. and some of the republican senators very unhappy with that. >> the white house has reiterated that that will not happen in the briefing. the boston bombings also reigniting the debate over privacy. security cameras played a big role in this investigation. and politico writes, americans hate big brother until moments like this. so is there a so call happy
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medium between security and privacy? or is there a need for surveillance like new york's so-called richk steel in major cities. plus the latest out of texas including the rescue of more than 130 people inside this nursing home. we're getting video of what the nursing home looked like moments after the explosion itself. and we have an update on the president's trip as well. plus, new 911 calls released moments after the blast. >> look, our house, our whole windows, everything, it sound like a bomb. i'm outside and there's like a bomb. >> officials say they know the source of the explosion but they do not know what caused the initial fire itself. we'll have the very latest for you in an update. and you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me on tamron hall. i had enough of feeling embarrassed about my skin. [ designer ] enough of just covering up my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪
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we continue to follow breaking news as the department of justice has filed charges against dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old accused bomber of the, after the boston marathon. according to the information we have, he has been charged with using a weapon of mass destruction against persons and property at the boston marathon on april 15th, resulting in the death of three people and injures to more than 200 others. we continue to look through the charges against dzhokhar tsarnaev. we'll bring you the latest developments. also renewed calls today by law enforcement for more surveillance cameras in our towns and cities. officials say the boston investigation is proof that security cameras can play a key role in catching suspects. >> i am a major proponent of cameras. more cameras the better. i think the privacy issue has
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been taken off the table. >> listen to these numbers. according to a market research group, an estimated 30 million surveillance cameras have been sold in the u.s. since 9/11. there are 3,000 surveillance cameras in new york's financial district alone. a security network known as the so-called ring of steel. philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey said he would like to welcome a similar system in his city. >> i wish we had the 3,000 cameras, to be honest with you. listen, it is an invaluable investigative tool. >> our next guest says the privacy concerns are real. that continue creased surveillance should, quote, give us pause. neil richards is a law professor and wrote a paper called the dangers of surveillance. thank you for your time. i say that -- >> thank you for having me. >> the 30 million surveillance cameras, that's to houses, businesses. that does not include cities.
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30 million to homes and businesses alone. private homes. what does that tell you about i guess the way many people see their security? >> i think it means when people want to feel secure, they buy cameras. when cities want to feel secure, they buy cameras. the good news and the bad news, we have tens of millions of surveillance cameras in our society. >> well certainly politico for example has the headline, americans hate big brother until moments like this. we've seen that kind of argument as it relates to for example, even medicare. you hate it until you need it. we've seen people have back lash against the government. you hate it until you need it. does that apply in the sense of our surveillance? until our lives or our towns, in sad cases, the victims of crimes, then we hate it. >> absolutely. i think the big picture last week is this. we had bought lots of cameras. and we had a lot of them. and they were enough.
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and i think rather than making this a call for more cameras, maybe 100 million more cameras, 200 million more cameras, i think we should look back at two idiots set off a bomb. boston refused to be terrorized. the boston police did a terrific job and found the suspects and arrested them in a few short days before there could be any more attacks. the balance we have struck between privacy and security after 9/11 is effective at finding the culprits of crimes. >> so you believe that we have enough cameras in place in all of our cities. what i'm reading as well is you have, if you will, a city versus rural debate. people in small towns more inclined to be more offended by these cameras than people who live in major cities like bott, new york, d.c., seem to applaud having that surveillance more. >> it is interesting. i know a lot of the commentators have been talking about accents.
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i'm from england. that land has more security cameras in place than anywhere in the world. the surveillance cameras in britain did not deter the 7/7 subway bombings. they might be useful for investigation but there has been a bit of a back lash in britain about local governments in rural governments spending hundreds of millions of pounds. these technologies are not costless. they have to be evaluated in the balance of the entirety of the law enforcement budget and the government budget. and ultimately, if we are spending money on surveillance cameras, that we possibly don't need. if we have enough. we might be taking police off the street. we might be putting roads in disrepair. we could be taking money from the schools or raising taxes. these technologies are not costless. they're not costless in terms of the budget or civil liberties. >> thank you for your time. greatly appreciate it. now more on the investigation and the aftermath. let me bring in congressman keith ellis, the first muslim elected to congress. first i'm sure you've heard the
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news that dzhokhar tsarnaev has been charged with using weapons of mass destruction in the boston marathon attacks. we're reading through the charges. learning more about what the fbi seized from his room. they described a large pyrotechnic, a black jacket and white cap. the big concern in addition to his brother's ties to any other outside groups, if there are any, is the question about the fbi. that the fbi questioned tamerlan tsarnaev and said that he was not a threat at the time. do you have any concerns with that information? >> well, you know, it is too early for me to second-guess the fbi. i think we need to know more about what they knew. the fact of the matter is that it is good that they contacted him. that wasn't enough to deter him, obviously. but the fact is that before i'm going to say the fbi should have done something different, what i, i'm not prepared to say that yet. there is just not enough information. what i will say is this.
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we don't know what their motivation was yet. those facts may come clear. there is some indication that this had to do with chechnya and their dispute with russia. and there is not, it is not necessarily the case that anyone should jump to the conclusion that there was any religious motivation here. i think again, prudence and calm is the order of the day. by the way, you know, the people, the law enforcement officials who investigated this case did an awesome job. i think they should be committed. i think the fbi is probably part of that. >> since you bring up jumping to conclusions, obviously many people have brought up his ling and there have been reports over time that his mother as well seemed to become increasingly more religious. obviously that is not a crime. but according to at least one individual who knew her well, she started to have conspiracy theories related to 9/11 and feeling that her son was framed
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and targeted because of his religion. proceeding ahead when we're bringing up radicalization of this individual suspect, what is the proper question to ask? how is it properly addressed without offending muslims and without appearing that we're all alarmist about an individual's religion? >> good question. i think the first thing to do is to ask questions and to operate on the basis of behavior. and so this gentleman, well, individual, i'll say that, he came to the attention of the fbi because of things he said and things he did. that's appropriate. what should not be cause for alarm is somebody's status as a member of a particular religious faith or how devout they may happen to be. in all these cases where you see acts of radicalized individuals using violence, they may have a religious affiliation. but oftentimes when they give reasons for why they did what they did, it is politics. so for example, timothy mcveigh was motivated by waco.
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not his religion. feisal happen to be muslim but he was motivated by his grievances with regard to u.s. policy in pakistan and afghanistan. who knows what these individuals' motivation may be? but it will probably have more to do with politics than religion. let's not cast a wide net and just go after a whole religious group. >> let me play what congressman peter king said sunday regarding the way ahead and the proper way to ask these questions. let me play it. >> 99% of the muslims are outstanding americans. the fact is that's where the threat is coming from. when the fbi was after the westies, they went for the irish communicate. when they were after the mafia, they web after the italian communicate. if you know where a threat is coming, that's where you have to look. >> do you see anything valid in those remarks? it's true that well over 99% of the muslim communicate is absolutely loyal, law-abiding
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americans who are as offended by what happened in boston as any other american. that's true. after that, my friend representative king is wrong again. the fbi did not go after all italians or all irish people. no one ever said, let's surveil a whole ethnic community. they went after people who were criminals and who were exhibiting criminal behavior. the fact that those people happen to be of a particular ethnic origin was not the causal effect. the issue was what they were doing. so again, it is just ridiculous. to say that because of the westies, that every irish person was under suspect. everyone in america knows that's ridiculous. but still he wants to cast a wide net with regard to muslims. the fact if you were to ask american muslims where is clech in a on the map, most of us would never know. we would have to find a map and look for it. so you're talking to people who know literally nothing about the conflict these individuals may
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be motivated by. so it is just, one thing it does, it targets people unfairly but it wastes valuable resources of we need to channel resources where they are most needed. which is on behavior. >> let me get your reaction to the congressional hearing. looking at the boston bombings and you have some senators saying, this is an example of why we need to slow down the process for fear of so-called threats being let into this country. your reaction to that, senator grassley and others? >> well, we need to strengthen and move forward on immigration reform so we can know who is in the country and we can make sure that we have valuable information about that. slowing down on immigration reform is simply going to leave our country more porous and have people in the country whose ideas we're not aware of. so they're exactly wrong. they're 100% wrong. what we should do is move forward.
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one thing that we need to do, too, make sure that we investigate the fact that these guys had guns. have they slipped through our background system? that is an important inquiry, too. i hope we are looking into the question as to whether they had those guns legally. i know they were in the country legally. >> we know that the 19-year-old was under age so he wouldn't be abe to pass a background check on that alone. that is part of the investigation. neither of them had a license to carry a gun in massachusetts. we'll continue to follow that as well. thank you so much for your time. thank you. fear in the midwest of flooding is far from over. more rain and snow expected to hammer towns already hit by floods. we'll check on what's happening with those folks in the midwest.
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decision to declare dzhokhar tsarnaev not an enemy combatant. >> military commission trial are not available in cases like this. i wrote the 2009 military commission act. i've been a judge advocate for over 30 years along with the help of many colleagues, we have created a military commission system for foreign terrorists. we purposely excluded american citizens. i have all the confidence in the world in article iii courts at the federal level. they do a terrific job. i have confidence in our military commission system. the decision by the administration to not proceed into state court in massachusetts, i think, was the correct decision. the death penalty will be available at the federal level. this is clearly in my view a candidate for a case to be deemed an act of terrorism. here is my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years,
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civilian and military, i support the concept that no one should be required to incriminate themselves while they're in the custody of the government. that is a long held jurisdiction in the military and civilian setting. no criminal defendant should ever be required to incriminate themselves in a criminal case. every nation at war should have the ability to defend themselves by gathering intelligence. these are not mightually exclusive concepts. i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam. defined as the taliban, al qaeda and affiliated groups. the question i have regarding this case, is there any affiliation between these two individuals and the groups i just named to allow enemy combatant status to be
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conferred. >> we are listening to a presser from senator graham. he takes issue with tigs ma's decision not to declare dzhokhar tsarnaev an enemy combatant. earlier today, jay carney at the daily briefing for the white house says that the suspect will not be treated as an enemy combatant. they will prosecute this terrorist go their words, through civilian system of justice under u.s. law. we saw within the last hour, the charges filed against dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old suspected bomber. he has been charged with using a weapon of mass destruction against persons and property at the boston marathon resulting in the deaths of three people and injuries to more. our own pete williams is looking over the charges and getting more information. meanwhile we have new information regarding the parents of the two suspected bott bombers. according to the father of the suspected bombers will travel to the united states on wednesday. his wife is now in dagestan and
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she said that the fsb, the russian federal security services, a successor to the kgb, is sending them to moscow tomorrow to meet with them. this would be the second time the president has met with the agency. the first time the parents were questioned friday night is the information. as it stands right now, the father, anzor tsarnaev will travel to the united states, according to at least what he has told our report he there on wednesday. the white house also announced just over the hour ago, that the president will be attending a memorial service in texas thursday for the 14 people killed in last week's massive explosion at a fertilizer plant. right now, federal and state investigators are back on that scene of the disaster in the town of west, texas. they're still trying to determine the cause of the fire that triggered the explosion itself. nbc's gabe gutierrez joins us live from west, texas. the chilling 911 calls absolutely send chills through
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anyone who can hear them but this investigation is still going on. >> reporter: that's right, attem tamron. today many residents went through police checkpoints like the ones behind me trying to get back into their homes and the one school that escaped any damage from last week's explosion reopened today and displaced students went to class. many in temporary classroom. all this as i mentioned,le questions linger about how and why this happened. new images obtained by nbc news inside the nursing home. torn up by last week's explosion. >> it was just black smoke, windows all blown out. i thought, my god, what has happened? >> reporter: the administrator wants the world to know of the heroic efforts by the employees and first responders who rushed to pull 130 elderly residents from the rubble. >> has it sunk in yet? >> no.
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not really. >> reporter: you can hear the panic in the 911 calls. >> look, our house, our whole windows, everything, it sounded like a bomb on 35. i don't know what's going on. >> investigators say they found the origin of the explosion. but won't say where it is. and they still aren't sure what caused wednesday's initial fire. >> we do not have a time line. >> reporter: the fertilizer's facility owner is working closely with investigators and pledges to do everything it can to understand what happened. but already some lawmakers are asking whether chemical storage regulations need to be strengthened. residents wonder how long it will take to rebuild. >> there is a big explosion and our house is just destroyed. >> reporter: again, tamron, the white house announcing that president obama and the first lady will head to a memorial service on thursday for those killed in the explosion. this town is still shaken and the president once again taking on the role of comforter in
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chief. >> thank you, gabe. right now, flooding from heavy rains is causing havoc in at least six midwestern states. this could be just the beginning. at least three people have died and floodwaters caused the rescues, force evacuations and close roads and bridges. near st. louis, more than 100 barges broke free in the rain swollen mississippi, disrupting river traffic. a frantic sandbagging effort is underway in some places as the mississippi and other rivers keep rising. this is all the result of fast -- last week's torrential storms which dumped a month's worth of rain in a matter of hours. meantime, more rain is expected. the weather channel meteorologist kelly cass joins us with the latest. what can you tell us? >> not just a heavy rain but the snow melt that is adding to the rivers rising. we're still having major flooding along many of the rivers here. the des plaines river, more snow on the way for some of these areas of the plains as well as the upper midwest.
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as you mentioned, we are expecting more heavy rain in places like st. louis as well as chicago which saw some terrible flooding just last week. and when all this snow melts, we're talking about another foot for some of you, that is going to cause these rivers to swell even more. all the creeks, everything, we're in major flood stage along some of these rivers. the ground cannot take any more water. it is already saturated. that's why we're seeing the problems along the rivers in the midwest. >> delays were reported at several major airports as furloughs kick in. we'll get the very latest for you. we had never used a contractor before
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the flight tracking service says flights heading to florida especially are seeing delays. the president of the air traffic controller's union at newark airport in new jersey said some flights out of there have been sent back to newark because the washington air traffic control system was overwhelmed. joining me now, the report we are the associated pretty, scott, thank you for your time. >> this was predicted right around the time the sequester hit. now we're seeing the impact. >> yesterday it went into effect. today has been the first real day. >> why are we just seeing it now when the predictions were weeks ago? >> yesterday was the first day of the furloughs. everyone saw the big delays coming. when business travelers hit the road, it was bad this morning. >> what were we seeing at the high point? >> more than two hours at some airports. if you look at the shuttle between new york and washington, the train was actually faster today than flying. it was amazing. >> several travel agents over the weekend, as early as friday,
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started sending out warnings to their regular customers to brace for what would happen sunday into monday. >> yes. and for travelers, there is no way of knowing which flights will be delayed today. which one will be delayed tomorrow. a lot of it has to do with weather. things like runway closures and it is really at the mercy of the faa. >> some of the airlines have started to react. delta has said it is disappointed and warned travellers to expect delays in major cities that we've already outlined. what are the other things we're hearing from the airlines? >> basically the airlines are saying the faa has other options. they can cut their budget in other places. the fax says no. this is how we have to go ahead and do it. the airlines have taken the fax to court over this of they filed a lawsuit on friday. there is no hearing date set for that. everybody is watching closely to see if the courts change the decision. >> what do you know about this newark situation, the flights having to return as a result of the washington controllers being, quote, overwhelmed? >> you have a regional air traffic facility that handle flights going from new york to
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let's say, florida. a lot of the flights heading over the washington air space were overwhelming the number of reduced workers there. they said we're sorry. you have to turn around and come back. >> what's next? >> next we'll watch what's happening in the afternoon commute. l.a., san francisco, san diego are all airports to watch this afternoon. tomorrow, anybody's guess. chicago, dallas, all airports we're watching closely. >> thank you very much. we greatly appreciate that. back to one of the big stories of the day. the raw emotion of the boston bombings was evident on capitol hill during a previously succeed judiciary committee hearing on the senate's immigration reform bill. the bombings came up several times, leading to some very testy exchanges. >> let no one be so cruel as to try to use the hans acts of these two young men last week to derail the dreams and futures of millions of hard working people. >> when you propose gun legislation, i didn't accuse you
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of using the killings as an excuse. >> joining me now, mark murray. we're just a few minutes away from the nation marking one week to this day, at 2:50 eastern time. when those bombs went off during the marathon. i want to talk about the lingering effect including this immigration debate. >> it is important at the outset to say that the two suspected terrorists came into this country when they were between the ages of 9 and 16. with their parents under asylum. they were level imgranlts. the second brother dzhokhar became a u.s. citizen in 20 level. the major planks of this immigration reform legislation as you and i have been talking about deal with undocumented immigrants having a pathway to obtain citizenship and legal status as well as enforcing the u.s./mexico border and making sure that employers aren't employing illegal immigrants.
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none of those seem to be applicable to this but it has set off a political debate. >> thank you very much. i want to transition and take you to boston. jay gray is standing by. we are about ten seconds away from the moment of silence throughout the nation focused on boston. let's pause for a moment of silence.
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there we have the pause around the nation but heavily focused in boston. the moment of silence from marathon memorial. mayor menino as well in dorchester, massachusetts, the home of martin richard. the state house, the train stations, the university of massachusetts as well. all around boston and the nation pausing for a moment of silence. to be followed by bells ringing throughout boston, marking the moment that really it seemed that time stood still as we attempted to find out what was going on.
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we saw the explosion during the marathon as many runners were crossing the finish line. and a week later, within the last couple of hours, the lone suspect who has survived charged today. we're learning more about him. jay gray is standing by as well. jay, here we are again pausing, honoring the heroes who rushed in to assist and even the officers who we watched in that fire fight late thursday night, early fright morning who helped put all of this to some conclusion. that the suspect was apprehended. >> yeah. and a lot of people here very pleased to hear that this is moving forward legally. but this is an emotional day as you might imagine. dozens of people pouring out of their apartment buildings, their office buildings. very somber, not really even talking to each other. taking this time to remember the victims, to honor the victims of
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the blasts exactly a week ago. it has been interesting and very telling to see the reaction of boston in the wake of this attack. a lot of people very resilient but never to the point where they've forgotten those who were lost and the dozens that remain in the hospital right now. and we don't have the opportunity to show you what's happening behind us. it is just like you see in front of the camera. people pouring out of office buildings and standing along the sidewalk. staring out at the spot where this all occurred a week ago, tamron. a lot of people again felt like this was a very important part of what they understand will be a long difficult healing process. a lot of people today centered their day around what would happen here at 2:50. >> i see the people behind you that we talked so much from the weekend, the ball game, just to the highs and certainly we know the lows of what we witnessed this last week. it is incredible to see people
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milling about, keeping this in their minds and their hearts but able to move forward as we are supposed to do at these times. i really appreciate you coming on live. thank you for joining us for this hour of "news nation." we're happy to have brought you that moment of silence on this equally important day to all of us and remembering those whoed lost their lives a week ago this very minute. thank you for joining us. "the cycle" is up next. everybody has different investment objectives, ideas, goals, appetite for risk. you can't say 'one size fits all'.
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